I found it a source of much misinformation. The quality of the leather isnt as good as Crockett and Jones, but is far superior to my Barker and Loake shoes. However, I would recommend ones like TLB and Skolyx that I have had experience with. Alden TruBalance 9D: Its just so good. Carmina shoes come with better finishing than the Meermin shoes. Theyre not as refined as the other Asian brands, but stand out for making Goodyear in the old-school way, stitching directly to the insole. So, rather than the gemming method that most modern Goodyear shoes have, where a canvas ribbing is used instead. Think Ill grab a pair of black calf Trickers first, then see how I go. Below that, there are smaller differences created by new entrants to the market. As someone who generally purchases shoes in this price point and has experiences with Carmina, Loake, Allen Edmonds, Berwick and Meermin.. Focus were on shoes below 300, Carlos Santos nowadays is a bit above that, but definitely good for the price. Carminas just dont break down easily. No one see this though, its only for yourself. Bought before I understood my size. AE is placed well below C&J and Carmina, lacklusterly portrayed together with cheaper brands, and tied with Loake. Crownhill is decent stuff as well, especially the material level for the price is good. I definitely enjoy the articles with the highest quality makes but its nice to have a change of pace as well, especially if its going to help me make a decision on something Im likely to buy. Their prices and quality is a good balance. I will refrain from commenting on fit unless people think it will be helpful. Both these shoes are true to size, but Carminas are however more fitting and properly sized than the Meermin shoes. Foot extends past footbed on sides, narrow waist causes some bowing. Thanks a lot Simon. Just got re-measured last week after losing some weight (again), Im standing in between 10.5 C/D. There are many brands in that segment, such as Joeworks or October Tenth, that I think might appeal to a fair number of PS readers. The Rain 7.5EEE was okay but not great - more tight than comfortably snug, and I'm not sure if they would break in well for me. When I complained I was told The second pair is always better ! This is very useful, thank you. Ive read PS with some interest over the last year or so, and have enjoyed learning how to dress properly. This helped me understand why sizing as 10D was actually very bad advice and never worked out well. Viberg 1035 8.5: Its a great looking last, heel is massive. Please support us by using them. P-79 last 10D: Excellent fit right out of the box with thick or thin socks. Carmina shoes are made with classy Shell Cordovan Leather that is really elegant and unique. I once dumped a veritable fortune on a pair of bespoke Berluttis that caused me so much physical discomfort I was left with the impression they had been designed by the Gestapo. Id be interested to see a reference for the made in Asia comment in the article. Truman P-79 9D: Nice fit. I'm trying to suss out sizing for several models: I don't know if I can help, but I will give it a go - do bear in mind, of course, that everyone's feet are different. Alden Trublanace 9D: Far more volume than I need and a lot of play side to side in the ankle area but certainly comfortable. Their last is made for the Japanese feet, which are flatter in general with a smaller heel. Has the quality of Crockett & Jones gone above Carmina lately? Carminas actually have better fits than Meermin shoes. But also, a lot of brands offer MTO with a different width at no extra cost, or only a small one. I wear the same size in rain shell as in xim unlined. Trickers 4444: A perfect fit in 8.5 with medium socks in Logger boots. Customers complain that the Meermin shoes are often poorly finished. Berwick has become very popular in recent years, particularly in Asia, Russia and elsewhere. Carminas guidance is down by half for shell or for unlined , in all lasts. Edward Green)? It is something that is destroying the reputation not only for these brands but for bespoke shoes in general. And do you know any retailer in continental Europe who sells Anthony Cleverley? Hence, vanity wins (maybe). very lucky to have bought 8 pairs of EG at a big discount so my shoe cupboard is overflowing and needs to be trimmed now I feel much less tired in my feet after a long day, and if one have a bit problematic feet it will be an even bigger difference. $215 shipped to the US. Have been on a Brannock only once. Start-up brands are often good on marketing, on styling and photography. They are amazing shoes. I loved the MTO experience there. But its worth being sceptical about claims on quality. Its just not possible.. I can see a grey being useful, but that's about all probably. Ive always found the customer service at EG shocking. But the key issue from my point of view is that AE offers 10 widths across all the models in their portfolio, where none of the Northamptoners are able to offer more than 2 and only for very few of their models. The close-channel stitching is also a plus, you know youre getting more handwork for the soles. This article, then, is an analysis of the market for mens dress shoes below the Crocketts Handgrade level - all informed by Jesper. Too tight in the vamp and mid-foot. Besides, one isnt going to do something athletic in dress shoes so a relatively poor fit is not noticed most of the time. I now have 3 different pairs on that Cheaney last. Former Affiliate Vendor Threads; a Locked Forum. Total:1,176 (members:154, guests:1,022), Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o. I do know and enjoy your blog, lots of useful information! This means the number of brands to cover increases, as they do at the bottom of most clothing categories, so towards the end we divide into regional sections instead. I dont really David the piece is deliberately written by someone else, not me, as its not an area I have that much experience with. I brought a pair of black Oxford brogues in a classic last for 109 that were from the previous season and a pair of Dark Leaf Calf Oxfords for 150 that had a negligible fault (even the staff had to look it up as it wasnt obvious). These classy are built for the ultimate style, comfort, functionality, and elegance of the elite. My understanding is that AE is below the likes of Crocketts in terms of make, but thats based on the input of people like Jesper who know more about them than I do. Put simply, if you pay 250 for a shoe you cannot get 500 quality. (For a RTW dark brown oxford, although I could stretch my budget a bit more, up to 400 euros). NF Bootmaker 43.5: Had these modified for a wider waist as the 44 was a bit long. Some RTW still offer width varieties but I believe the manufacturers found that those with narrow feet didnt suffer if the shoes were too wide. Fully bespoke shoes including trial pair start from about 550 depending on the exchange rate, and they offer ready to wear / MTO lines of various grades between 65 and 450. Its a smidge roomy, but I don't believe going an extra half down would have worked and I prefer boots to be worn with boot socks. Meermin shoes are highly trendy and fashionable shoes. I would agree that some change has happened since Stollenwerk sold the company to an investment fund, they seem to have gone into the greed and certainly for some cost cutting somewhere to make up for the handicap of making in the US. I have to say from personal experience I found Berwick to be the most incredible value. Even so, I do believe that the Meermins are the best value-for-money among the shoes mentioned. G. F. G. . Yes, you certainly do notice the differences, and they are both of the quality type (unlike a shirt) and the making type (more like hand sewing). Apart from the differences in material qualities, a major difference between Carmina shoes and Meermin shoes is the price tags that these shoes are sold and distributed for. However, a really bright or unsual patina has never really been my style, and is becoming even less so. Cheaper shoes will often have small mistakes, such as little splits in the sole or heel stack. Youre better off looking at the tannery the leather came from and if it had a recognizable leather name (cxl for example) but even within that there are gradations on the product from the same tannery. Thanks Aidan. Vans Old Skool/Era: 11D, solid out of the box. Significantly roomier fit than the 65 last so, even though they don't fit my foot shape well, they're reasonably comfortable. 9.5D heel to toe. Giro bike shoes: 45.5 EU - Great fit. Its a good time to be a consumer in this area.. Some of it is differences in leather and lined vs unlined, but a lot of it is lasting differences. As a simple example, in the UK the price of Consul, a black calf, toe-cap Oxford will increase from the current price of 495 to 720. Im trying to decide between the following two options: 1) Myrqvist Molle Loafers @ 151 per pair, 2) Trickers Elton Loafers @ 225 per pair (on sale). An apron toe penny loafer from Orbans last summer that were on clearance for 60 euros. I guess what I am saying is that depending on where youre, the good value for under certain dollar amount list will really change for you. Alden Aberdeen 9.5D: Great fit. #EasyLifeESMenBoots #DopeBoots #Meermin #TobaccoVintageBoots #EasyLifeES #CasualMenBoots #Carmina #ShellCordovanBurdeosHorweenBoots---ALL UB playlist---: ht. Also Barkers at the 1880 price point are made in the UK. But have you ever disclosed your so called financial situation regarding your reviews you dont pay full price if any price for all these garments you have made for yourself, correct? As been mentioned by Simon, dont see it as a complete list of brands, its just a selection of ones to highlight, theres plenty of good brands not mentioned (and plenty of less good ones as well). We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. A pair of EG Chelseas bought today are just as good as a pair bought ten years ago as will be a pair bought in ten years time. Predictably, this European company uses European sizing, which is normally a full size down from your Brannock (or "true") size. I cant really comment Im afraid Sebastian, having never owned any. Either as a good value buy for one who is unwilling or unable spend more, or, as a gateway purchase into the world of fine mens shoes. Thanks for taking the time to reply. Being cheaper is an objective description of price. My Yanko boots I enjoy in the winter months here in New Zealand (about now). I just purchased them and they are in transit from Sweden. I find that you almost always get what you pay for when it comes to goodyear welted shoes and both of these shoemakers are a big step up from all the budget tier brands I have tried in terms of materials, fit, craftmanship and durability. He was told they had changed, as you see seem to have observed as well. As someone who has handled or owned several of these brands I thought it would be helpful to offer my experience, anecdotal though it may be. Sizing as 10D often feels the most natural for overall volume but is usually tight in the mid-foot (not always noticeable until I've walked in the shoes for a while), sometimes toes/ball, and occasionally a bit short in the arch/flex point. Cobbler Union (above) is a newer brand, and more similar to TLB or Carmina, while Spier & MacKay is a clothing brand with a line of shoes at 220 which is decent for the price. Allen Edmonds 511 9.5D: Seemed like a bad fit or just poorly lasted. They look nice but if I know Ill be in shoes the entire day and might walk a bit I do not wear them. So for example, they now only curve the waist line on the inside of their shoe, and not the outside. Trickers 4497s: 8.5 is a little too short, while 9 feels too big in most pairs. I appreciate it doesnt work for everyone geographically, but most of the famous English brands are still manufactured in the Northampton region. Career and job listings in fashion, mens clothing, Reviews of Classifieds and classifieds sellers, No Man Walks Alone - Official Affiliate Thread (a.k.a. Fast worldwide deliveries; 14 day returns; . The insoles also havent molded to the shape of my foot as I would expect by this point. Meermin Hiro 8.5E UK: Good fit overall, snug around the ball without being tight and toes are less cramped than I expected with how the last looks. I have to disagree. Jason: Thats a real shame. Own 2 pairs and ordering a 3rd in this last. Brett has called it an EE width in the past, I don't think its much wider than the 2030 at the ball where it matters most, but the heel is extra wide and the toe box doesn't taper as much so there's more toe room as well. Here in the States, the mark-up on most of these brands, when one can get them, tends to be breathtaking. They are extremely comfortable and very good value in my opinion. men's size 6D with my thickest socks; my dream would be a size 5.5 in this last: 6D Meermin Hiro Derby: 4.5: UK: . Seems to be a popular thing to write now. There are some good value pick ups in this range, especially when youre figuring out what you like and dont like and building up your wardrobe slowly over time.. Nice, good to hear your experience Taylor, thanks. Orbans (above) is a brand started by Marcos Fernandez, who also started Septieme Largeur and other brands in France. Maybe a little wide fitting but enjoyable and no breaking in required. Also, the chunky sole and derby construction arent that suited to suits. If you will be ordering from the Trickers website, I suggest going over the fine print. I have had a very different experience with EG service. These Meermin shoes are comfortable, fashionable, trendy, and highly durable. Its a bit funny though that you state I do arbitrary claims, when you yourself lift the examples you do, without backing it up with anything. The honesty of the first 4 paragraphs bring home why , having read this blog for 8 years, at times it feels less relevant to myself . Carmina shoes are more comfortable, stable, flexible, durable, and stylish than the Meermin shoes. Here you'll find an extensive sizing chart for Goodyear welted shoes from Skolyx, Yanko and TLB Mallorca. Fit seemed good at first but toe box is just too narrow for extended wear. Other brands in this range include Septieme Largeur, Andres Sendra and Janko. Customers cant stop talking about Carminas. I wrote an article about it many years ago on the Swedish version of Shoegazing (before English was launched) which, to summarise, had the conclusion that its down to vanity. Total:1,176 (members:154, guests:1,022), Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o. Snug in the forefoot and toebox but not tight. Great read Simon. Way too narrow all around, last too tapered for my taste. Meermin HOK 8.5E UK: Pretty decent fit with boot socks. Carminas are better than Meermin shoes today because of one major thing: Better Material Quality. very snug in the toes. Avoid if you have a low instep or wide feet. Its got a bit of a shorter toe relative to the heel to ball. Lofgren 110: Im aware that its not polite anymore to cherish them, but the Steadfast Chukka in 9.5 is my best fitting shoe ever. They are never mentioning it, but the leather is bookbinded. Meermin shoes are cool and stylish as well, but, they are however not as stylish and cool as the Carmina shoes that are distributed in this present moment. But they belong in a different category, a quality level down., France, Germany, Italy: Loding, Orbans, Velasca, Shoepassion. What Id like to know is how much higher quality will the Trickers be over the Myrqvists? Best fitting shoe I own, after a couple wears I can sport these for 20 miles with no hotspots. Loake Jockey last (G-Fit): 7UK fits but a bit roomy on chelsea boots. Grant Stone Leo 9D: Great fit all around. . I usually just buy shoes in the 500 range when they go on sale for 200-300, but in the 300 range I really like the Austrian manufacturer Handmacher; they make shoes on traditionally boxy Viennese lasts, and they use tiny wooden nails to connect the soles to the uppers. With 10.5D, my feet are usually swimming in the shoe. (Vibergs cxl is different to Thursday boots cxl.). Additionally the soles of Cheaney arent as hard wearing either, I have needed more frequent resoles. document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); Footslide.com is a full-time participant of the Amazon Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com, 2023 Footslide.com | All Rights Reserved. Trickers are by no means accessible by price point (especially in the US) but get a pair from the outlet and you still have a pair of tanks that will last you for at least a decade. Also Berwick, Yanko and others. Really? Besides a very enthusiastic and engaging chap in the Jermyn Street store, whose name I have forgotten, they could do with taking lessons from the brands mentioned in this post. It takes days to sift through the carmina thread to even know relatively what size to buy. Alden 379x (Military Last) 9D: Incredibly comfortable last, toe box is roomy and snug in the waist and heel on shell, the split welt in Arabica Luxe was a little more snug. *** Viberg GYW fits just a touch smaller than Stitchdown. I guess I was wondering whether the differences in finer shoes were of this sort, especially because you have said before that you find your Aldens to be among your most comfortable shoes (but maybe that was more about lack of structure than anything else). Im a long term Crockett and Jones customer I buy main line and handgrade (I prefer the handgrade for the softness of the leather and the whole leather inner, which feels lovely). Parkhurst 18 Last 9D: Too narrow, should have gone TTS. Overall, Meermins are not as good as Carminas because the Meermin shoes seem to be poorly finished when they are compared to the Carminas. both pairs have a dainite (or dainite-type, in Meermin's case) sole the Meermins have blind eyelets, whereas the Carminas have a brass eyelet that look to match the speedhook finish the heel on the Carminas is quite a bit longer than Meermin's Simon: I understand that there are certain differences between more expensive shoes and less expensive shoes. I have been tempted for a while to try a pair of bespoke shoes to see if it truly is a large step up in comfort. Theyre all Spanish except Septieme Largeur, which is French but made in Spain. Also I heard that they are actually trying to improve or change things constantly. Wide midfoot, but a touch low instep which translates to average volume, just squashed a bit down. There is a great day out to be had (or was) visiting the factory shops of the main makers in and around Northampton. Viberg 2050 9: The E width of this last is still unreleased, but its what I would likely do for another pair in this last. spoo -- great thread idea (I'll soon add my info ). Id also echo other comments that a trip to the factory outlet shops in Northampton is well worth it. There might be a wide heel seat, for example, but then even some expensive English shoes like John Lobb have that.. Myrqvist, which we mentioned at the start, is one of these and uses fairly good raw materials - sourced from well-known tanneries like Du Puy in France. The big differentiating factor is not business model, but location of manufacture. Somehow lower instep than E? (I think I prefer the darker colour of the first). **. Luckily it did a tiny bit making it bearable, but damn they are still uncomforable I have to admit. Rancourt 800 9D: Great fit. Vanity may well be part of the explanation, its hard to say. However, I continue to buy loafers from Allen Edmonds because they sell shoes that come in 4-5 widths, so its easy for someone with narrow feet to find loafers that fit and wont fall off. Brands like Cheaney, Churchs, Trickers and Grenson dont feature here? A bit surprised that you had the experience with Berluti, they have a pretty good reputation. Id highly recommend it for more detail all of these brands, particularly on the technical side. When it comes to fashion quality, Carmina shoes come off as more stylish than the Meermin shoes.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'footslide_com-large-mobile-banner-2','ezslot_8',115,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-large-mobile-banner-2-0');FASHIONABLE CARMINASFASHIONABLE CARMINAS. More disclosure is called for before putting a disclaimer on others situation. Buy Meermin shoes today because of how affordable they are. Cnes also has great hand-welted shoes too, about 350 I believe, which look a lot more expensive.. Alden Barrie: I can be comfortable in Bluchers in 8.5E. They can be found on many websites for less than 300( e.g. meister Stylish Dinosaur Joined Feb 10, 2007 Messages 10,772 Reaction score 2,515 Dec 28, 2011 #9 The upper leather is stiff and prone to hard creases, but also a little thinner than other brands on this list which helps with comfort. While, as you mention, most people dont see the difference between a 400 Goodyear welted shoe and a 4,000 bespoke shoe. Job done. 240 Last 9.5: Bad fit. The main concern for me is finding a last shape that fits my high instep and once I find that last I stick with it. Snug in thick socks. I was very impressed with the integrity of your website after reading IS THIS AN ADVERT? Ive a pair of Barker Grant that I must have worn 50/60/70 times and its only last week I had a topy (SVIG rubber) put on, the cobbler reckoned the rubber on the heel hadnt worn enough to warrant replacement. However Id like to venture another (partial) explanation (I have bespoke garments but no bespoke shoes): If the fit on an RTW shoe is good (comfortable all day, no blisters once broken in), is it really worth moving from C&J handgrade to bespoke? These shoes have seen some heavy use and have been worn at least twice as much as the previous pair. Most of our ready to wear production goes from size 6UK to 12UK, but if you happen to wear a smaller or larger size, we can definitely help & specially make any pair from our collection for you. Grant Stone Alexander 8.5D: Mediocre fit, a little snugger than I'd like across the top of the foot, but a good fit everywhere else. Bespoke obviously solves this but I dont care enough about the other elements you get and pay for with bespoke, or perhaps I just think 2k+ is too much and I suspect (hope?) Pretty good fit, but I need a kilty for some of the volume while new, will probably break in more and be able to be cinched down better over time. A bespoke suit certainly flatters the owner, makes them look good. I have a pair of 9D shell chukkas that fits well, but after 2 months still has a little heel slip. They are slightly cheaper than the C&J handgrade line, though I am not sure what drives the difference. Too tight in the vamp and mid-foot. Im an Alden fanboy with the exception of longwings. No worries at all, its much appreciated. That said, something in the post did strike me negatively, on a subject I previously had been puzzled about: appraisal of Allen Edmonds. I'll try to be fairly comprehensive Im always trying to promote Goodyear-welted shoes, but its not easy when someone has just tried Meermin, and thinks all proper shoes are that hard. Other than that, interesting article. 4 3 3 comments Best Add a Comment hjordan28141 2 yr. ago Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Meermin Museum Calf Monkstraps size 11US at the best online prices at eBay! Unless there is also a considerable increase in quality, Id say this reposition leaves Church as even less of a value for money option. Some of the best dress shoes that you can get with your money today are the Carminas and the Meermins. The subreddit about quality footwear. A good pair of these would really satisfy your footwear style needs for a really long time. Styleforum is supported in part by commission earning affiliate links sitewide. In the long run you will always regret buying a pair that ticks all the boxes, but doesnt have a good fit. Allen Edmonds is a shoe company and will always be known as such. The lower tier shoes arent and if C&J or EG are out of reach, go with Alden rather than any of the cheaper Northampton brands. Doc Martens or Loake 1880 for Chelsea boots ? on that curve of diminishing returns. My personal experience I can unreservedly recommend Allen Edmonds (the Strand in particular). Definitely wish Viberg made more boots on this last. The English brands at this price level are Loake (1880 range, above) and Barker, both of whom make their uppers in Asia to cut down on costs. And that at the end of the day, I would be better off saving on a getting an additional major item a year of fine quality rather than getting a 30th shirt that I dont really need. Click Here to join Styleforum's thousands of style enthusiasts today! Ive been a big fan of Crockett & Jones, Carmina and Edward Green. Those two are quite similar, in that they both have pretty large marketing budgets, run their own retail, and have ridden the wave of classic menswear in the past few years. My personal thoughts are as follows: Loake As the article suggests, the Loake 1880 is the bare minimum you should go for. Carminas are more expensive than Meermin shoes, but they are also more valuable. Its a comfortable, yet roomy fit. I'll only really be taking 2030 in 8.5 for 2017-2020 made pairs. Im really tempted to name and praise (as opposed to name and shame! In general, I think this breakdown demonstrates that you still largely get what you pay for with shoes. By the way, the customer service at Skolyx is excellent. I could not ask for a better fitting oxford. That may change in the future though, with the higher-end ones like Miyagi Kogyo trying to make it abroad. If anything, I would say last and design are the least obvious things they are the easiest ones to mimic. This is what separates them from the suit debate. Wapmaxi Time To Change 2015Meermin & Carmina Boot Sizing and Review Hey all, been a bit since I've posted but I stopped by both Meermin and Carmina in NYC the other day and thought I'd share my opinions for guys looking at either or both for fall boot wearing. Where C&J excels is in the breath of their offering, but the overall quality wouldnt differ significantly between the two. heel and instep grips without the toe being too restrictive, * **Edward Green 82** 8.5UK pretty good forefoot with too much heel slip. Carmina Simpson Oxford - 10 UK. My girlfriend values their classic oxfords because they are not Goodyear and have soft insoles making them very comfy. They also have choices of colours for those who want to make their outfit pop, with bright and lively colours including red, green, and bright blue. For the price of a brand new AE Id rather get a pair of C&J or Carminas for a little more. A nice watch is also showing something. Good point Ben, Im not sure. Any sock works but medium thickness (Darn Tough light cushion) is ideal. Bored of counting likes on social networks? Premium Leather Uppers stitched down well with Goodyear Welting strategies make the Carmina shoes to be one of the most well-finished shoes that we have had the privilege of wearing. Maybe something in the weight of the shoes or its balance, but nothing apparent in construction. Overall fairly similar to TLB but a little sleeker overall, with tighter cut soles, more dense stitching, and (in my opinion) sleeker lasts. #EasyLifeESMenBoots #DopeBoots #Meermin #CarminaBoots #ShellCordovanBoots #EasyLifeES #CasualMenBoots #MereminPlumMuseumCalf #Meerminbelts---ALL UB playlist-. I got tired of my usual worn brands price development and wanted to see if it is possible to find decent shoes under 300 Euros, which in my eyes is in no way cheap. Both of my pinky toes stick slightly out, sometimes I say I have splayed toes, but it's really just the pinky toe on each foot likes a bit of room. Alden Grant: 9E is a wonderful fit for me in 4060 boots with medium socks. A very useful piece for me as Im slowly getting into the joys of proper shoes. I'm looking at a cobbler union in a 312 last they recommended 1.5 down from brannock. I just read on an Spanish forum that Meermin and Carmina used to buy together batches of leather from the same place. Will never purchase from that brand again. You must log in or register to reply here. Hugs my foot like a glove on all sides, including the arch, but I wouldn't mind if the heel was a bit more snug. Measured as 9.5 D. Will get more detailed measurements after the pandemic, along with a military last fitting. At first glance, you should be able to tell, to an extent, if a pair of shoes would be a good fit for you or not. Ive gradually moved more towards the Handgrade products, though not entirely, as the range of styles is more limited. Ive found having slowly worked my way up the chain that in terms of value for money, its Cheaney, Trickers and Alfred Sargent which have ultimately paid off. Barker has indeed several models in corrected grain, you find them under hi-shine on their own website. Off sale they come in at about 380 per pair (sale price 225) and they have a great re-furb service where for 80, theyll send them back to you as good as new. Leo 9.5E: Excellent fit with thin socks. Id not have worn them in wet conditions though. TLB is from Mallorca, like Carmina, but is only a few years old and is trying to gain a similar reputation. For something more formal I turn to Carmina which provides the best bang for the buck. Wear the same place and praise ( as opposed to name and praise ( as opposed to name praise. 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