Trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble. GROSS: Without him asking? And then it was never like, oh, they have to be on a record once I do record them. During "Break Out the Champagne," Shires wryly relates an account of a female friend who was dumped by a dullard, only to realize that he'd never really satisfied her anyway: "I'm rock and rock and roll, and you're golf." No more? We would sleep on the floor in the closet there because she would do the night shift, because she would was going to school in the daytime for being a nurse. As it turns out, it did start some conversations within our own families. Recently, I had an ectopic pregnancy, she tweeted. Isbell took a stand, even facing backlash from his fellow artists. You dont see a lot of men speaking up, and every voice is helpful. And I was like, thats what I want to do, because you play this song. And I got awarded a scholarship to be able to go to those. Long before weathering the isolating COVID-19 pandemic, Shires had endured years of studio experiences where producers and musicians undermined her SHIRES: Oh, yes, Mercy is my daughter. And I said, thats all you have to say? And these guys are in their 70s and 80s, and it was very much like hanging out with lots of granddads. 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In the decade-plus that Shires has been making solo albums in addition to working as a side person with Billy Joe Shaver, Justin Townes Earle and, eventually, her husband and fellow singer-songwriter Jason Isbell she's expressed self-consciousness about the shivers and tremors in her singing voice, tried to smooth them out of her delivery and ultimately embraced its untameness. For the past decade or so, Amanda Shires has sung about the dark shades of relationships lapsed communication, broken trust, fading intimacy with a devastating eye for detail. And if anyone asks me, Ill say whats true I dont know. SHIRES: And I think Sheryl Crow plays bass on that one. That way, there could be a more kind of a wider effort to try and have the conversation with folks and realize that youre not alone. I am Terry Gross. 99.99%. I didnt want to do more damage. GROSS: Lets take another break here. My family left Honduras when they killed the Sandinistas. Jason Isbell and Amanda Shires perform at Ryman Auditorium in Nashville. fiddle-playing damn Texan. Its all control.. And after he did his time, he didnt say anything about it. We both know that none of that was keeping, keeping me anyhow. Recently, I had an ectopic pregnancy, she tweeted. GROSS: Oh, I wish he could have heard you do it. It was love at first listen. After trailing off there, she draws a thorny conclusion about the web of intimate, familial dependency: "Maybe being human is an orphaned condition and what's missing isn't what should be found. My best hope is that people continue to get angrier and that the folks who have been fighting so hard for so long, and are already tired, find some strength to keep fighting and also to mobilize others, especially youth, along the way. Our technical director and engineer is Audrey Bentham. Shires, an incisive songwriter and solo artist and occasional member of husband Jason Isbells 400 Unit band, has been vocal about protecting a womans right to choose in the past. And here it sits. I got up to sing, and I was like, oh, crap. We found all this out afterwards. On Shires' latest record, her songwriting is more fearless and vulnerable than ever but as always, it's a reflection of an artist focused intently on community, equality Her new album is Take It Like a Man. This has been the hardest year. Being from Muscle Shoals is kind of like having a cool tattoo or something., After getting sober, writing and recording the new album felt more natural to me, says Isbell, lighting a cigarette as seagulls caw overhead. I dont care if somebody wants to put a target on me. SHIRES: It was because Tommy Allsup was living in Snyder, Texas, at that time, and he was running the Bob Wills band. So it was just like a week and a half or two weeks afterwards that Texas banned abortion. SHIRES: Thank you so much. If you share your story or share your beliefs, youre going to get some haters and trolls. Im your man. On top of that, Shires notes, the pro-life stance doesnt typically extend past birth. Send us a tip using our anonymous form. And I know that he feels the same way I do. WebAmanda Shires - The Problem (feat. It took me a minute to really learn how to improvise, Shires says of those early years. GROSS: Lawrence Rothman produced your new album. He could still leave it dish in the sink, you know? Ive listened to all of his records. And she was like, I had no idea. And I was like, my granddad was in Alcatraz? GROSS: One of the things I love about his music is the way he combined the spiritual and the profane in his songs and the spiritual and, like, anger and resentment and despair. But a lot of times when youre growing up and taught what how to be successful and how to be to survive in the world as a woman with a career and all this stuff and probably young many young kids are taught this. It rings out like its supposed to. But I thought, what am I going to do about that in the event that she does go into country music? Sign up for Rolling Stones Newsletter. Isbells first show after finishing rehab was opening solo for Ryan Adams in Perth, Australia, three days after he got out (two, if you count the international dateline, the day that goes into the vortex). Yet, Isbell noted, the problem is that many of the venue owners are getting so much pushback from some of the governors of certain states who want to kowtow to their political base.. In 2017, for her solo work, she was named emerging artist of the year at the Americana Music & Honors Awards ceremony. Wills was the father of western swing. So lets hear a little bit of that song. I didnt believe it. So lets hear a song about when things werent so all right. Amanda Shires' To the Sunset comes out Aug. 3. Well be right back. This part of my life and our marriage was difficult and it took me back to the reason I came to writing and doing music in the first place, which is expression, she says. A parking lot at night is a setting in which many women have learned to feel unsafe, to hurry about their business with heightened awareness that any strange figure approaching may have sinister intentions. I had no problem taking direction, but and I had no problem helping when I needed to help, so. Is there a song that you could play a Leonard Cohen song you could play an excerpt of for us in tribute to him since were both such great fans? GROSS: So this track features you, Natalie Hemby and Yola as a guest artist on it. The song is called Empty Cups.. When she paints a picture of motherhood in the subdued jangle-pop number "Charms," she doesn't dwell on its oft-idealized and sentimentalized facets. People are still going to get abortions, and were going to have to keep peoples secrets, and house people, and try to do the best we can. GROSS: I think its time for another break. I dont feel like it matches whats going on inside my brain. I was snared by your wrist. Its pretty obvious.. You can say its all my fault. Since writing that op-ed, I have had reproductive healthcare that some might call an abortion when I was hospitalized in Texas on August 9, 2021, with a ruptured fallopian tube caused by an ectopic pregnancy. Is that right? As they talked, In 2020, The Highwomen won Album of the Year at the Americana Music Honors and Awards ceremony. SHIRES: So I thought if I could write a song with my feelings in it, that it might bring him around to the walls that arent really walls that we put ourselves behind sometimes. The timing of The Problem and the fact that its benefiting the Yellowhammer Fund are both important, as draconian, punitive abortion laws have been enacted in Alabama and neighboring states in the last year. Lets get back to my interview with singer, songwriter and musician Amanda Shires. Her new album of original songs is called Take It Like A Man. She also co-founded the country supergroup the Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. Fellow singer/songwriter Aimee Mann tweeted well wishes to Isbell: Im so sorry. And I wrote Fault Lines and then I texted it to him, just like youd imagine. Im glad to hear it. AL.com spoke to Isbell last September about when he decided implementing these COVID restrictions at his shows was the right thing to do, how this stance has affected the relationship with some of his fans, what its like to finally hit the road and play again and what it will take for Alabama to have a change of heart on getting vaccinated. "I'm daring to do what she couldn't bring herself to do," Shires ruminates, shadowed by her own feathery harmonies. To see more, visit. And Bob Wills was, like, the father of Western Swing, which combined country music and jazz. And then you also youve got guys thatll back you up. requiring proof of vaccination or proof of a recent negative COVID test, even facing backlash from his fellow artists, Buy newspaper front pages, posters and more. SHIRES: Ive listened to all of his records. They do tell you that going out and helping other people really helps you a lot. Trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble. GROSS: How did you find that out? GROSS: Yeah. I cried, I asked and I balled. GROSS: Amanda Shires, how did you decide you wanted to write a song about abortion? You slammed the door so hard I still hear rattling spoons. SHIRES: Oh, right, in Alcatraz. NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WTVF) Three months after an emergency heart transplant, Grammy-nominated keyboardist, producer, songwriter and artist Peter Levin Amanda Shires. Amanda Shires (born March 5, 1982) is an American singer-songwriter and violin player. She has performed as a member of the Texas Playboys, Thrift Store Cowboys and Jason Isbell & the 400 Unit, as well as in a duo with Rod Picott. Shires has released six solo albums, her most recent To The Sunset on the Silver Knife label in 2018. / And the fear that I feel when I see my features reversed in my own daughter's face." Its yet another thing that, when policing does happen, is going to happen haphazardly and ruin lives. And then in my mind I thought, well, if he couldnt hear the frequency of my voice before, maybe he could hear it through music, you know? And then I thought about Waylon [Jennings] and Kris [Kristofferson] and them of The Highwaymen, and I was like, They were kind of speaking about ageism. I said, Itd be cool if I had a band, The Highwomen. Then I told my friend Dave Cobb about my idea and he really liked it and he said, Im going to have you meet Brandi Carlile. And we met. SHIRES: I forced myself in that position. So I started just taking notes on the radio because in 22 songs, [I heard] one womans voice and it was a Carrie Underwood song from six years before that or something. The Problem wraps up by driving home the weight of the decision for her character. Copyright 2023 Penske Business Media, LLC. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. I wouldnt go back and change it. And how did you figure out what you wanted your point of view to be, you know, like, who the song would be about? And then, we did it, sing the song. And sometimes, you know, you can, like, cup your hands and drink water from them or you could cup your hands and I dont know. SHIRES: Honestly, a lot of times, my thoughts come to me just in pictures. I want to talk with you about The Highwomen. 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